>> well, i think the media has been pretty tough on president obama's rollout of the health care law, and i think the question last night that matthews posed to him, his level of management control and ultimate accountability was the right question, i just don't think obama really answered it. it doesn't matter how many times he met with kathleen sebelius, he didn't meet with her enough, obviously. if he was hands on, he would have learned earlier on that this was an enormous task, that the people assigned to it were not up to. and it was ultimately not prepared to be launched on october 1. there were other indications that before october 1, he says he doesn't know about that. either way, whether you know and you're trying to hide it later or you didn't know, that is a failure of leadership. >> what about this whole thing that his take, charles, that government is not good at certain things and we're looking to consolidate some agencies and yet his administration, when describing the success that they're having now, says that the we believe site is operating at private sector velocity